The weekends brawl between Kelston boys and Auckland Grammar caused concern with officals and local rugby great Wilson Whineray. This then begs the question, are our sporting spectators over the top?
Yes because I think spectators are giving to much pressure on players by Booing them or doing things like that and making the players in the field fustrated. And when they get Fustrated it causes allot of problems like what happened in Kelston Boys and Auckland Grammer match.
Very interesting comment Anubhav. When you talk about pressure, have you ever been in that situation of frustration caused by spectators? If so, how did you to it?
Yes i agree that spectators are over the top because they pressurise people and booing others. I also think that it is a bad thing that auckland grammer boys ha a fight with Kelston boys.
Yes some spectators are over the top because after booing and pressurizing the opposition team and with the brawl with kelston and grammar but the spectators even started fighting about the match which is bad because the spectators are there to watch and they shouldn't get into fights because they should leave it for the to teams to sort out. Why should spectators get into brawls that the players should sort out?
Sam , I see your point about others across the ditch and so forth, however, players have a code of conduct to follow. Do you think that spectators should have to follow along the same lines and if there is already something that is already in place, how is this message spread?
i think that our spectators are over the top because thy shouldnt boo and people and start or get involved in a fight but nobody is perfect and i guess thats how they feel but i think they should just calm down and enjoy the game .
i agree with what aaron said because spectators are meant to watch the game and do some cheering for they their team to support them but definatly not booing the opposition team or starting fights. the spectators should think of themselves in the opposition's place, will they like it. if they don't then the other team won't as well
Maybe the games should have biggger fences or security gaurds to stop fights like these. I don't think anybodys taken that action. Or we could just make it a criminal offence, starting a fight at a sports match.
Yes Sir I have sir I have been in a situation where spectators have been spectators have been over the top of me. But in those types of situations I would feel really fustrated but I would have just ignored it. Imagine how angry the players in the field would feel when people start Booing. When they Boo!!! or things like that people start getting nervous also. This why I think spectators have to be a little bit in control of there self instead of Booing or doing things like that.
yes Jack you can't go and build a fence in the middle of the school but you could put barriers which you have to have a card to get onto the field but you have a maximum amount of times getting in the ring and once the time is up then you can't go in again
Yes Samuel S. I see your point but have you ever thought why should spectators get out of control when it's just a fight instead of trying to stop the fight. So Samuel are you assuming that if there is a Rugby match or any sport or whatever and if people have a fight the spectators go over control, How you know that?
yes Samuel I think that they made the paper because it was over the top and the fight got so out of hand that the supportors couldn't stop this outraging fight
Cameron How could we go finding out if it depends on the sport. I have seen this happen in lots of sports. And where did you come with this conclusion.
i think they were'nt over the top but they shouldent have got involved in the fight and like laughter sometimes getting involved in a fight is the same in some cases
samuel I see your point it wasnt a big issue but most rugby games dont have fights to this level with the crowd joining in so it must have been a fairly major fight
anabuv I came to this coclusion becuse some people dont take some sports more seiriously and for excample patonk is a very calm sport and that has not been any insodents from that sport yet
this has been use full for my last fact I think that this comentating affects the players and the coachs because if they heard this while they were paying then they could hear somthing bad about them and start to get angry and take it out on the other players
i think that the spectators should leave the job of figting and breaking them up to the ref on the field so he can send the players off before the fight gets over the top.
I disagree that our spectators are over the top because it is the player who lets go of his self control, i believe that players should train in self control
I disagree with you andrew because police do not boo or start negativity it is the player himself or herself who lets go of his self control and starts these things, of course in some of these brawls the parents of the players are involved and I think they do this to protect thier children
I think like that, because players have experience in these situations and to throw their dignity away and throw a punch should be out of question to most of them. I also believe that frustration at the ref is also a major issue with these fights.
I think the problem is generel lack of curtosey and respect to others and also kids in this age they do what they want when they want and they dont get in trouble... what do you think?
Yes I think sporting spectaters can get very over the top. What I mean about over the top is when thew spectaters see that there is fight or a brawl they won't to join in, maybe because they are angry with the reff that he has made all the good calls for the other team so they won't revenge
i agree andrew kids this age always do what they want when they won't and they deffently should'nt be because they know that they are going to get in a lot of trouble
Meaning that the reff has made some bad calls on the game and the spectaters do not like it, so insted of telling the reff that he has made the rong call the take all there anger out on the players
I dont agree andrew I think councilling is not the way to go because it's not every kid thats getting in fights. Also it would cost non private schools alot of money>
jack I get why you think that people should play for fun? most people would agree with that but most people would get so hooked on winning that they only hate to lose. how would you go about convincing people that losing can be fun?
spectators also are really hooked on the competition and hate it when there team loses but they shouldn't care so much about winning they should watch for the love of the game.
I disagree amd agree with jack.As Sam said it is a bit like Australia and AFL.Maybe it is just in our nature to be like this. And Jack seems to be assuming that the All blacks play for fun.
I think that it good to be competitive with our rivals and the media take it over the top.No use in mocking people when they miss a kick. Spectators are a bit the same.Getting to involved in the game.
Yes because I think spectators are giving to much pressure on players by Booing them or doing things like that and making the players in the field fustrated. And when they get Fustrated it causes allot of problems like what happened in Kelston Boys and Auckland Grammer match.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting comment Anubhav. When you talk about pressure, have you ever been in that situation of frustration caused by spectators? If so, how did you to it?
ReplyDeleteI mean, how did you react to it?
ReplyDeleteYes i agree that spectators are over the top because they pressurise people and booing others. I also think that it is a bad thing that auckland grammer boys ha a fight with Kelston boys.
ReplyDeleteyes i agree that spectators are over the top because if the officers are concerned it means that what the spectators are doing is very bad
ReplyDeletei think when spectators boo people it makes the team play badly because it will affect their feelings
ReplyDeleteYes our spectators can be a bit over the top but what about the english over soccer, or australians over AFL. We arent the only ones.
ReplyDeleteAnd some spectators even come to start fights.
ReplyDeleteYes some spectators are over the top because after booing and pressurizing the opposition team and with the brawl with kelston and grammar but the spectators even started fighting about the match which is bad because the spectators are there to watch and they shouldn't get into fights because they should leave it for the to teams to sort out. Why should spectators get into brawls that the players should sort out?
ReplyDeleteSam , I see your point about others across the ditch and so forth, however, players have a code of conduct to follow. Do you think that spectators should have to follow along the same lines and if there is already something that is already in place, how is this message spread?
ReplyDeletei think that our spectators are over the top because thy shouldnt boo and people and start or get involved in a fight but nobody is perfect and i guess thats how they feel but i think they should just calm down and enjoy the game .
ReplyDeletei agree with what aaron said because spectators are meant to watch the game and do some cheering for they their team to support them but definatly not booing the opposition team or starting fights. the spectators should think of themselves in the opposition's place, will they like it. if they don't then the other team won't as well
ReplyDeleteMaybe the games should have biggger fences or security gaurds to stop fights like these. I don't think anybodys taken that action. Or we could just make it a criminal offence, starting a fight at a sports match.
ReplyDeleteYes I sort of agree but you cant go and build fences in the middle of a shoool.
ReplyDeletebut with the older people games we could have some security cameras in the changing lockers and on the field watching the game
ReplyDeleteYes but even with cameras fights could still break out.
ReplyDeleteGood point jack.
I think the spectators are over the top because its just a fight. it happens in a lot of rugby games so why did it make the paper?
ReplyDeleteYes Sir I have sir I have been in a situation where spectators have been spectators have been over the top of me. But in those types of situations I would feel really fustrated but I would have just ignored it. Imagine how angry the players in the field would feel when people start Booing. When they Boo!!! or things like that people start getting nervous also. This why I think spectators have to be a little bit in control of there self instead of Booing or doing things like that.
ReplyDeletesam w its a good point with the secuity gaurds but if it was a criminal offence a lot of people would be getting it and that wouldnt really be fair
ReplyDeleteI think that they can somtimes are over the top but I think that it really depends on the sprt and how big the insodents are
ReplyDeleteyes Jack you can't go and build a fence in the middle of the school but you could put barriers which you have to have a card to get onto the field but you have a maximum amount of times getting in the ring and once the time is up then you can't go in again
ReplyDeleteYes Samuel S. I see your point but have you ever thought why should spectators get out of control when it's just a fight instead of trying to stop the fight. So Samuel are you assuming that if there is a Rugby match or any sport or whatever and if people have a fight the spectators go over control, How you know that?
ReplyDeleteyes Samuel I think that they made the paper because it was over the top and the fight got so out of hand that the supportors couldn't stop this outraging fight
ReplyDeleteI see your point Joshua, But have you ever thought about how much money would it cost to make that special barrier just for school Rugby match.
ReplyDeleteCameron How could we go finding out if it depends on the sport. I have seen this happen in lots of sports. And where did you come with this conclusion.
ReplyDeleteYes Anubhav I agree with what you said put wouldn't you consider how safer it would be if they put the barrier up?
ReplyDeleteyes i agree with the statment up top. but i think there should be at least a police at the game if there was anyway.
ReplyDeletei think they won't put barriers up any way because the crowd will find a way back on to the field
ReplyDeletei know it will try to keep the crowd in but there will have to be another entrens to the field.
ReplyDeletei think they were'nt over the top but they shouldent have got involved in the fight and like laughter sometimes getting involved in a fight is the same in some cases
ReplyDeletejoe I see your point but dont you think having police at a school rugby match?
ReplyDeleteI think its a bit over the top
samuel I see your point it wasnt a big issue but most rugby games dont have fights to this level with the crowd joining in so it must have been a fairly major fight
ReplyDeleteYes Joshua I agree with what you said but are you assuming that it wasn't the players fault it was the spectators and the supporters?
ReplyDeleteanabuv I came to this coclusion becuse some people dont take some sports more seiriously and for excample patonk is a very calm sport and that has not been any insodents from that sport yet
ReplyDeleteI also think we should have different spectators and in that case we will have different words comming out every week
ReplyDeletethis has been use full for my last fact I think that this comentating affects the players and the coachs because if they heard this while they were paying then they could hear somthing bad about them and start to get angry and take it out on the other players
ReplyDeletei think that the spectators should leave the job of figting and breaking them up to the ref on the field so he can send the players off before the fight gets over the top.
ReplyDeletei see your point andrew but have you thaught about other cases around the world
ReplyDeletei think that our spetaters are behaving very badly at our sataday rugby games and need to calm down
ReplyDeletejimmy i see your point but its not just the spectarers is it.
ReplyDeleteI see your point james but most kiwis rugby is a very major and of course they are going to get excited
ReplyDeletei also think there should be police or secrutiy gaurds on the side of the field, if the ref can not control the fights
ReplyDeletei disagree with you because the pressure of police might put the players off and that wil ruin the game
ReplyDeleteI disagree that our spectators are over the top because it is the player who lets go of his self control, i believe that players should train in self control
ReplyDeletewill can you say why you thik that?
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you andrew because police do not boo or start negativity it is the player himself or herself who lets go of his self control and starts these things, of course in some of these brawls the parents of the players are involved and I think they do this to protect thier children
ReplyDeleteI think like that, because players have experience in these situations and to throw their dignity away and throw a punch should be out of question to most of them. I also believe that frustration at the ref is also a major issue with these fights.
ReplyDeletewill, but they do have a very pressured type of pressance so in my point of veiw the police shouldent be there and explain why you think they should?
ReplyDeletedo you belive that it is the players fault or the crowds fault for pressuring them into madness?
ReplyDeletebecause without the police the crowd may go crazy. Think of the streakers in cricket and think what no police would mean
ReplyDeleteit is the crowds responsibility in some ways, but who watchs a sports game quietly? We all cheer and boo sometimes.
ReplyDeleteI think the problem is generel lack of curtosey and respect to others and also kids in this age they do what they want when they want and they dont get in trouble...
ReplyDeletewhat do you think?
do you see my point will?
ReplyDeleteYes I think sporting spectaters can get very over the top. What I mean about over the top is when thew spectaters see that there is fight or a brawl they won't to join in, maybe because they are angry with the reff that he has made all the good calls for the other team so they won't revenge
ReplyDeletei agree with you sean but can you clarify that for me?
ReplyDeletei agree andrew kids this age always do what they want when they won't and they deffently should'nt be because they know that they are going to get in a lot of trouble
ReplyDeletebut sometimes kids do really stupid stuff and they dont get caught so they do it again so what do they do then?
ReplyDeleteMeaning that the reff has made some bad calls on the game and the spectaters do not like it, so insted of telling the reff that he has made the rong call the take all there anger out on the players
ReplyDeletei totaly agree with you sean and they should control their anger with maybe councelling dont you think sean?
ReplyDeleteThat comment is true Andrew but why do you think that they do it in the first place.
ReplyDeletebecause they are building up their anger and get so mad that they start a brawl
ReplyDeleteI dont agree andrew I think councilling is not the way to go because it's not every kid thats getting in fights. Also it would cost non private schools alot of money>
ReplyDeleteThat is a good one they really should do that instead
ReplyDeleteI agree with you jack it would cause to much trouble.
ReplyDeleteAlso in my opinion the game should be played for fun otherwise dont play
ReplyDeletei agree with jack and they need to remember that its just a game
ReplyDeletejack I get why you think that people should play for fun? most people would agree with that but most people would get so hooked on winning that they only hate to lose. how would you go about convincing people that losing can be fun?
ReplyDeletespectators also are really hooked on the competition and hate it when there team loses but they shouldn't care so much about winning they should watch for the love of the game.
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ReplyDeletemost spectators involved in their kids sports get wrapped up in the sports and try to live through their children
ReplyDeletezac i agree but don't you think it will be very hard to control people from totally loving the game
ReplyDeleteandrew how do you think the spectators won't care about the game
ReplyDeletesean how do you think will take out the anger off the players or spectators?
ReplyDeleteI disagree amd agree with jack.As Sam said it is a bit like Australia and AFL.Maybe it is just in our nature to be like this. And Jack seems to be assuming that the All blacks play for fun.
ReplyDeleteI think that it good to be competitive with our rivals and the media take it over the top.No use in mocking people when they miss a kick. Spectators are a bit the same.Getting to involved in the game.
ReplyDeleteZach so your saying that they should lay back?
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